I regard them both as the enemy of Britain. I would think that the Guardian is further to the left than the Independent, but not by much. I know that these days the term left wing tends to be a umbrella term incorporating, the old left, feminism, political correctness, obsession with minorities, pro federal Europe etc. All of the things, in fact, that any sensible, patriotic, person would avoid like the plague. The Guardian loses money, but its losses are made good by the "Scot Trust", money that an earlier benefactor left in trust for that purpose. You can also add the Observer to this trio of left wing rags. Read the Telegraph instead, a far more sensible thing to be doing.