Facts? You want facts? Lets discuss 9/11 with facts only. No logic, no emotion. Ready?. ---------------------. PS:. . Alright, so you responded saying you like facts. Fine lets get started. I won't use circumstantial evidence but simply physical evidence. Lets start with the easy ones first.. . 1.) WTC 1 & 2: Countless videos have shown the way these building came down. The time it took for the top of the building to fall was in step with free fall time from the top of the building. If the progressive collapse or "pancaking" theory is correct then for 110 floors to come down should take approximately 96 seconds. Elementary physics. However these buildings dropped in about 10 seconds each. Free fall time from the top of these buildings: 9.2 seconds. Want to explain that fact to me?. . 2.) Same argument for WTC 7. Again time to collapse matches free fall time. Progressive collapse should have taken approximately 40 seconds. Care to explain that as well?. . 3) The only way the buildings could have come down that fast is if the lower floors started collapsing EVEN BEFORE the floor above it reaches it. Anybody care to explain?. . points 1, 2 and 3 can be further studied in source #1. . 4) Agreed the fires on WTC made the buildings made the columns weak and the thing started coming down. But why do we see in the videos that the part ABOVE the impact zone blow into powder? There is no force ABOVE the building so why didn't the top of the building come down nearly intact before hitting ground?. . 5) The top of WTC 2, when it started to collapse, rotated out of the base area of the building. What laws of physics caused it to rotate back?. . 6) The towers were coming down. The only force acting on it was GRAVITY which acts DOWNWARDS. In the numerous videos what explains the debris moving sideways and upwards?. . Just how many laws of physics do you expect someone to suspend in order to believe this bullshit?. . 7) Pentagon! A plane hit the building. And traveled approximately 235 feet through concrete to punch out of the third ring. Remember the number 235 feet. The WTC towers are square shaped with each side being 208 feet. So if a 757 punched through 235 feet of steel reinforced concrete, why didn't a 767 emerge from the opposite end of the WTC towers made of steel and glass (instead of concrete!) only 208 feet away. 767s are bigger heavier and at least the second one that struck WTC 2 was traveling faster (590 mph) than the plane that hit the Pentagon (530 mph). The first WTC impact was at 470 mph. In any case the 767s had more kinetic energy than the 757 that hit the Pentagon. why didn't the 767's simply pass through the 208 feet of the towers and emerge on the other side if a 757 traveling at a lower speed could go through 235 feet of concrete?. . 8) Stuff to be found in the fire in the WTC towers: jet fuel, plastic, paper, fabric -- all hydrocarbons.. ~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame). Clearly the flame wasn't blue.. 1535ºC (2795ºF) - melting point of iron . ~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel. What melted the steel? Source #2 tries to explain this.. . There are many more points. Physics doesn't lie. These are simply facts that are incongruent with scientific truth. As I promised I didn't bring in circumstantial evidence. I am eager to see what/how you try to explain away physics. The conservatives accept the official explanation like the last truth on earth in the face of science. And you talk of liberals refusing to accept logic?